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Frustrated I turned to my PLN on Twitter and asked–

* What about kids talking to each other and learning socially is so hard to "get"?

* Why is control such a huge part of school culture? Control of kids–control of teachers?

* Why do we not trust students and think if we are talking - they are learning?

* Why is restructuring the way we deliver curriculum so hard for teachers to accept?

Wisdom of the Crowds

I awoke this morning to their wisdom. I am so glad I have a PLN. I'd love to know your take to these questions as well. Please leave me a reply!

Laura O'Reilly    
BoudiOReilly @snbeach Many teachers define learning as "agreement with me"
    
Laura O'Reilly 
   
BoudiOReilly @snbeach because we have egos!

craigsteed    
craigsteed @snbeach and then you realise, students/teacher dialogue (real dialogue) = learning = increased motivation = less 'need' for control.

craigsteed    
craigsteed @snbeach students talking = teachr not "delivering" = loss of control, these all fit togethr. Secret, to realise studnts can learn togethr..

ZZenovka    
ZZenovka @snbeach Hard for me as a teacher to restructure due to a lack of administrative support. I'd love to do things differently!

craigsteed    
craigsteed @snbeach (curriculum & control) I think it often stems from peoples own experiences from their education - hey it worked for them didn't it?

craigsteed    
craigsteed @snbeach I also wonder why teachers feel they must have exams to motivate students - motivation does not come from control

adrianbruce    
adrianbruce @snbeach NB I also believe that All Generalisations Are Evil! :-)

adrianbruce    
adrianbruce @snbeach I also believe that the natural selection process of Ts and Executives mean that these people do well in the existing system.
    
adrianbruce 
   
adrianbruce @snbeach Ad's opinion re qustions-Structural Functionalists believe that the structures that exist in groups replicate & continue the group     
    
Michelle Baldwin
    
michellek107 @snbeach we are discussing the "illusion of control" in schools- had a great conversation with district & bldg administrators yesterday

snobles    
snobles @snbeach Or filled a school with teachers who had not thought about their own teaching … really ever?
    
Carey Pohanka    

capohanka @snbeach What would happen if we had a school filled with people who hated school for themselves?

Carey Pohanka    
capohanka @snbeach I teach French (my passion) and Geo (hated as a student). I think I'm a better Geo teacher than French bc of that.

Carey Pohanka    
capohanka @snbeach meaning, as students the old system worked for them.    

Carey Pohanka    
capohanka @snbeach Many teachers are the ones who were successful in the "old" way..teacher talks, they learn. If not, they wouldn't have liked school     
    
Karen Richardson 
   
witchyrichy @snbeach it's ALL about trust system doesn't trust teachers OR students so they try to script learning so it's teacher & student proof

Patrick Higgins    
pjhiggins Icon_red_lock @snbeach great questions. Teachers have a hard time seeing the value in some forms of student-centered instruction.

Ian Nixon    
inixon @snbeach School culture is the key word there. The curriculum architecture in a school also tells the story of why control is dominant.

cbearsolutions @snbeach When education is under siege, anything 'new' looks simply risky. (found you through @j_allen, nice to meet you)

Ed Allen    
Horizons93 @snbeach Brilliant Sheryl! would say the answer is that change is feared and many, sadly think it is still 1978.
    
Susan Carter Morgan 
   
scmorgan @snbeach Control–it's how they were taught. They have trouble seeing beyond their own experience.

Josh Allen    
j_allen @snbeach Simply, too many teachers are control freaks and they won't give up control of that situation.

Karyn Romeis    
karynromeis @snbeach I wish I knew the answers to all your questions. I keep asking them myself! And I'm not even a teacher!

Chad Lehman    
imcguy @snbeach Is there a feeling that control is related to accountability?

Chad Lehman    
imcguy @snbeach I think restructuring the curriculum is more difficult for administration to accept.

Jason Alley    
jasonalley @snbeach Fear of the unknown and a feeling of obsolescence? I think your PLP model is a dynamic approach though. Seems rooted in E. Rogers.
    
Ernie Easter
    
ErnieEaster @snbeach First we would need to change school culture and principals who do not want to see chaos-kids socializing during class. Poor evals.
    
erniec
    
erniec @snbeach in order to make social learning happen we have to get a whole-school appreciation for what a GREAT classrooms look and act like

Carmen Tschofen    
ctscho @snbeach Always somewhat stumped by idea that teachers can "make" kids think.
    
Wendy Drexler
    
WendyDrexler @snbeach Teachers feel that what they are doing is working. Hard to give up "tried and true". PD should be about experimenting.

Alfred Thompson    
alfredtwo @snbeach How often to we hear people thinking that when kids are talking they are NOT learning? When it is often the way they do learn.
    
erniec 
   
erniec @snbeach if your style has been to maintain a quite and orderly classroom this looks like chaos

Wendy Drexler    
WendyDrexler @snbeach Do you think that control is part of a teacher personality?
    
Wendy Drexler 
   
WendyDrexler @snbeach I think we're afraid that if we're not talking, they're not learning. Can't see that twinkle in the eye when they "get it".

Scott Elias     
ScottElias @snbeach It's a lot of work & they don't see the value. Some believe that they are giving up the "power." That's where leadership comes in.

robclarke    
robclarke @snbeach I think it is insecurity

Jonbecker @snbeach have you read Dan Lortie's Schoolteacher?
    
Stuart Ciske
    
sjciske @snbeach Teachers teach the way the learned (and played old educ game) best and thus we have a system full of knowledge font people
    
Meg Ormiston
    
megormi @snbeach Add in the control question Unions setting the culture of control